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Graham

Man. Have you even read the Kerry health plan? The only government expansion would be the fed paying for states to insure all kids through S-CHIP.

I haven't seen anyone, for a long time, calling for nationalization of the health care system. What else of Kerry's plan is "nationalized health care?"

Funny you mention the Big 3 automakers. They've started investigating health care reform themselves, as they're losing business since health care is so expensive in the US.

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2004/july/ford_health_costs_co.php

anon

Hmm...could be that whole expanding Medicare to cover millions more...wait, isn't Medicare a NATIONAL GOVERNMENT HEALTH program? Why, I think it is. So wouldn't bringing more people under a NATIONAL GOVERNMENT HEALTH PROGRAM be moving towards NATIONALIZATION of healthcare?

Seriously, 3 year olds can do a better job of connecting the dots...

Graham

I don't see anything about expanding Medicare in his platform, but I could be wrong. Either way, anon, your terminology is all wrong. Medicare is not a national government health program, it's a national government health *insurance* program. They are 100% different. The UK versus Canada.

Israel deChipsa

I am glad to see Graham make an admission critical to the entire debate. There is a fundamental problem with terminology. Medicare is not a health program, it's an insurance program.

There is no health care crisis there is an insurance crisis.

If the crisis is in insurance would you change the thing being insured?

If car insurance is problemmatical, do you change cars?

Do you have the government take charge of car production?

Isn't that the whole point of this post by CodeBlue?

Isn't he saying the same thing as Graham?


Are Graham and CodeBlueBlogMD the same person??

Israel deChipsa

I am glad to see Graham make an admission critical to the entire debate. There is a fundamental problem with terminology. Medicare is not a health program, it's an insurance program.

There is no health care crisis there is an insurance crisis.

If the crisis is in insurance would you change the thing being insured?

If car insurance is problemmatical, do you change cars?

Do you have the government take charge of car production?

Isn't that the whole point of this post by CodeBlue?

Isn't he saying the same thing as Graham?


Are Graham and CodeBlueBlogMD the same person??

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